Comments on: Denial and Windows Live Writer http://www.besthubris.com/marketing/denial-and-windows-live-writer/ One man develops and shares his ideas in a quest to become a just another regular guy like: DaVinci, Einstein, Edision, ... Wed, 07 Jan 2009 03:14:17 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 By: admin http://www.besthubris.com/marketing/denial-and-windows-live-writer/comment-page-1/#comment-20 admin Mon, 07 Jul 2008 18:15:55 +0000 http://www.besthubris.com/?p=52#comment-20 Joe, Hey, thanks for your response. Any man who refers to his employer as corporate master is alright in my book. I see what you are saying, and you are right, the setup is fantastically easy even for Wordpress blogs (point at the address, give username & password, and it pretty much does the rest). However, it seems that on a setup box as large as the one is where the user selects their bog platform, there is enough room to include those used by the masses like Blogger and Wordpress. Then, the "other" thing would make sense. I believe I could get on board better if the buttons on the setup window corresponded to the products that represented the top 20% of choices made by users with the remaining 80% of products relegated to the "Other" page. (The highly over-cited 80/20 principal) My contention is that the top 20% is actually on the "Other" screen. There is another design principle whose name escapes me at the moment that contends that the most commonly used selections should ALWAYS require the fewest clicks or keystrokes. I'd say we have a miss based on this rule as well. Overall though, excellent blogger tool. I use it pretty much exclusively now that it has stopped renaming my images when they are posted. Still, I couldn't help but be struck by that setup process. Joe,
Hey, thanks for your response. Any man who refers to his employer as corporate master is alright in my book. I see what you are saying, and you are right, the setup is fantastically easy even for Wordpress blogs (point at the address, give username & password, and it pretty much does the rest).

However, it seems that on a setup box as large as the one is where the user selects their bog platform, there is enough room to include those used by the masses like Blogger and Wordpress. Then, the “other” thing would make sense.

I believe I could get on board better if the buttons on the setup window corresponded to the products that represented the top 20% of choices made by users with the remaining 80% of products relegated to the “Other” page. (The highly over-cited 80/20 principal) My contention is that the top 20% is actually on the “Other” screen.

There is another design principle whose name escapes me at the moment that contends that the most commonly used selections should ALWAYS require the fewest clicks or keystrokes. I’d say we have a miss based on this rule as well.

Overall though, excellent blogger tool. I use it pretty much exclusively now that it has stopped renaming my images when they are posted. Still, I couldn’t help but be struck by that setup process.

]]> By: Joe Cheng [MSFT] http://www.besthubris.com/marketing/denial-and-windows-live-writer/comment-page-1/#comment-18 Joe Cheng [MSFT] Wed, 25 Jun 2008 08:12:35 +0000 http://www.besthubris.com/?p=52#comment-18 Hi, I'm one of the devs on WLW. Thanks for the feedback! I thought I'd point out that the main reason why Windows Live Spaces and Sharepoint are called out as separate options is because we require different data from the user for those two cases. For Windows Live Spaces we are required to show different UI by the Windows Live ID team, plus we don't need the homepage URL. For Sharepoint we don't want the username/password because we try NTLM authentication first. For all other blogs we need username, password, and homepage URL. But, yeah, I'll bet our corporate masters don't mind us calling out the MS solutions either. :) They are paying the bills, after all, and this product brings in zero direct revenue. That said, if we had gotten the feedback from users that it was hard to set up WordPress and Blogger blogs, you can bet we would figure out a way to change the setup experience. In fact, the feedback we've gotten has been the opposite--we listen *very* closely to the blogosphere, and other than the admittedly dog-slow and unreliable installer, people generally love the setup experience, despite having to choose "Another weblog service". Hi, I’m one of the devs on WLW. Thanks for the feedback!

I thought I’d point out that the main reason why Windows Live Spaces and Sharepoint are called out as separate options is because we require different data from the user for those two cases. For Windows Live Spaces we are required to show different UI by the Windows Live ID team, plus we don’t need the homepage URL. For Sharepoint we don’t want the username/password because we try NTLM authentication first. For all other blogs we need username, password, and homepage URL.

But, yeah, I’ll bet our corporate masters don’t mind us calling out the MS solutions either. :) They are paying the bills, after all, and this product brings in zero direct revenue.

That said, if we had gotten the feedback from users that it was hard to set up WordPress and Blogger blogs, you can bet we would figure out a way to change the setup experience. In fact, the feedback we’ve gotten has been the opposite–we listen *very* closely to the blogosphere, and other than the admittedly dog-slow and unreliable installer, people generally love the setup experience, despite having to choose “Another weblog service”.

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